Instead, we just get a nerf. you can talk all you want about their "sp efficiency" compared to other classes but you are leaving out that knights have trash sp pools and sp recovery even with int and magni on they won't be spamming bowling bash. Literally every class that can't bring a priest with them is still going back for buffs, it's too inefficient to not do it. Im planning to make a bow type rouge bowling bash type, but i dont know the right build and where to farm. What did I just read lmfao On this server, though the damage nerf is very noticeable. Name: Lord Goriotep 99/70 SAVD Bowling Bash Build. they should be the best by a wide margin since that is their strength. Guildmaster changing has a cooldown of 24hrs. lots of arguments being made, you guys just ignoring them. There is an inn for those reasons, heal and get sp, warp back farm some more. bowling bash; gutter; gutterlines; lines; gramps; weekly; quest; downloads; custom maps; custom; map; grf; By Laharyl, April 21, 2017 in NovaRO Discussion. References ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 TitanRO forums: Server Info if you're talking about this  sorry but he's only talking about the coordinates below the minimap, something that we already have. Bowling Bash Behavior: Follows the official Gutter Line system. Right now Knights do use more sp/%dmg per BB, but that's intended. WOE boxes don't exist. Arguments against the nerf are BS. and they should mob better than any other class by a mile since thats what they do. Created as a spiritual successor to the defunct RCX add-on, SRH offers a handful of the same features from the defunct program. There is no compromise to reach but balancing the game. So, at least you are honest about nerfing, and not hiding it behind "quality of life improvement". Cons: Ignition break has a very high pre-req to get, you won’t get max Ignition Break until a minimum of job 23. Knights are going to take damage and sacrfice health. There will be a 3% TAX on all VENDING Transactions. Aww, poorly buit? Our bowling parties for kids are fun and easy to plan! Aspersio at best lasts 3 minutes which no one is gonna mob very far with that. Well we aren't. Knights are built to mob and nothing else. Gravity has shat on its playerbase feedback for 15 years, how do you this is an argument? yes you can build a knight for agi, but why the hell would anyone play an agi knight when they can play an agi sin, rogue, sader, or hunter who does more with the stat a million times better. Grey world is not supported and even a ban offense. 2) And if I get "Dremuci Forest (mosk_dun03) 212, 120" as example. or at least a high end weapon and a very difficult to obtain card. Keep the nerf. of course a knight is better at mobbing that an assassin. So, back on topic: 20% is still 20%. Not that anyone should care, because no one can detect greyworld anyway if you don't stream. don't compare them to a rogue, sin because those classes aren't built for it and have many other strengths. Still not a single argument for reverting a small nerf on the most OP skill of the game in its current state but nonsense about Gravity, gutter lines not being a problem, and whataboutism. I am also on the opinion that this "fix" is unnecessary, and there is no valid reasoning behind it. Well i understand what you mean but to say that knight is the only one having a hard time with SP while mobbing and killing is a lie. They were only broken on restart because there were no concerns about spending on pots (neither sp nor HP). Sep 22, 2019 - Explore Pat Sphar's board "Misc." I do agree with the nerf being unnecassary, especially with us having no infinite SP regen items here it wouldn't have been the only solo carry leech way to level. Only right movement is safe from our foe, the Gutter Line, because 157 is still a Gutter. They have traded in their Pecos for new dragon mounts and are ready to do some serious damage with an arsenal of new powerful attacks while also having the highest HP pool compared to other classes. If you are going to nerf its damage, then reduce the sp consumption by a corresponding amount to compensate. (hence the post) I've seen  it come up in main chat too. You can go agi knight, but then you can't mob and use bowling bash really anyway because you'll get melted. The server im playing is classic, no trans, just 2nd job and umbala episode is the new update. The gutterline removal was introduced because we felt that no skill should require a third party program to play. Hard to call it a "bug abuse" when nothing in game officially says Bowling Bash is only supposed to work on certain cells, nor is there any official in-game way to tell which cells are gutter lines, outside of having /where hot keyed until you eventually memorize gutter lines for that map. The best way i now is just to walk diagonally, 3 cells? something you DONT do on any other class. Also quite expensive to level it’s supply … Similarly, if we would nerf Double Attack from 50% to 40% chance (we're not),  would that make remove Rogues/Assassins ability to click stuff down? Thats just...pitiful. I know we all have nightmares about how busted Knights were in Restart, but on every other server I've played they've been just fine. the fact is this, despite what any non knight player will tell you, any good knight used simple ro hook and knew where the gutter lines were. I've also talked to people playing knight in my guild and they notice the nerf too. Learn More. But i dont have cash to buy from cash shop so i farmed sp items and lvled, and it was crazy! all the ways i found out to avoid it, its not official. League bowling has long been one of America's favorite leisure sports. Big Card sprite used. He also said Chick Hat is OP so don't expect much understanding. I vividly remember playing euRO 14 years ago and nearly every single Knight I saw was a spear build that used Brandish. using BB OFF gutter lines is bug abusing. Only tools that help them mob. And it shouldn't be. 3) Extract the „RCX Client“ folder somewhere. Gutter lines were never a problem, until now. Keep the nerf, Still not a single argument for reverting a small nerf on the most OP skill of the game in its current state but nonsense about Gravity, gutter lines not being a problem, and whataboutism. But you take a shit ton more damage. 7 members have voted. Brandish Spear is ok, but it was never comparable to BB. It brings together a sense of community, nostalgia and competitiveness that goes unmatched by most other American pastimes. It's like if you nerfed double attack for rogue or EDP for sin. I go hybrid vit/agi like you should. Knights are good at mobbing because of Endure, their high hp pool and potion efficiency. LOL, cause im planning to do some mobbing then bowling bash to be unique. why would I play knight, burn a shit ton of pots/sp items (assuming im a normal person without Earth Deleter) to have similar dps to other classes (cuz its nerfed right now) when I can just play other classes and not have to spend the pots/sp items. You can add an overlay to the map or use something like paint to draw the lines in yourself. Strikes a single target with a smashing blow twice, where each strike will inflict physical damageindividually to all enemies within the area of effect and push them backwards. Just that the nerf was unnecessary and pre-emptive against a class that doesn't offer anything else. then why shouldn't they be able to mob like a beast. Some abilities individually will always look broken. you are just going to take a shit ton of damage. with a 200% damage reduction being the difference between a two shot and a three shot on a mob. How desperate are you to have a 20% damage buff on your poorly built knight? It's way cheaper to just go from 1 mob to another to kill them, which you can also do on a Knight if you build for it. You act like reducing the total BB damage by 20% removes Knights ability to mob and kill monsters. Not that anyone should care, because no one can detect greyworld anyway if you don't stream, You can make grf edits to only display gutter lines and leave the 3D maps intact. Gutter lines were never a problem, until now. I have not tryed knight on titan, but on renewal it was way crazy:P Sure u had alot of easy sp items. Agi Knight isn't even bad, it's similar to spear sader except you have an AoE skill too instead of a pure single target. Knights don't have any other form of good dps besides Bowling Bash. they basically don't do anything else but mob. Knights require a lot of investment in build as without shit like raydric you aren't gonna farm well on them. You can't look at abilities in a vacuum imo. Bowling Bash does (500%*2) damage for 22 SP if you aren't in gutter lines while Brandish Spear does 300% damage for 12 SP. You can make grf edits to only display gutter lines and leave the 3D maps intact. Leaving the skill as it should be is, in my opinion, the smarter choice. literally no one here is saying the ability isn't good. what im getting at it, is that as the title says its unnecessary. In fact, if you knew nothing about gutter lines at all, you are more likely to BB a mob outside of gutter line than in it with the non gutter line areas being larger and all. 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